Guest: Micah Hanks is a writer, podcaster, researcher and speaker whose interests cover a variety of subjects, including history, archaeology, science, and the future of humankind. A longtime researcher and proponent of the scientific study of unidentified aerial phenomena, or UFOs, Micah has authored a number of books and has contributed many essays, articles and blogs to various publications. He is host of The Micah Hanks Program and a number of other podcasts, and is cofounder and creative force behind The Debrief, a news site that explores the latest in science and disruptive technology.

Guest: Stefan H. Verstappen is a Canadian author, researcher, and adventurer. He has written dozens of articles for various magazines and newspapers and is the author of 8 books including; The Way of the Warrior, The Thirty-Six Strategies of Ancient China,and The Art of Urban Survival. He has worked as an instructor for St John Ambulance, a wilderness guide, a community organizer, and a martial arts instructor with over thirty-five years' experience in the martial arts including five years spent studying in China